Please note the title before you comment on this post =).
For those of you that have 2 and 3 year olds that still have absolutely no sleeping pattern, or even a glimpse of it, please refrain from telling me so. Thank you kindly.
I know my sweet babies are only 7 weeks old, and please hear me when I say I have NO expectations of them sleeping through the night, or anything close, for weeks or months to come. I get it, they are newborns, and that is their job. No problem. They are totally worth it.
My fear is that we will never fall into any sort of routine for sleep patterns.
I swear I remember friends of mine saying their babies just kind of fell into one, where they were "down for the night" - with a few wake ups in the middle perhaps- by 7pm or something, or always up at 5:30am, etc. That they had patterns.
Even with those babies falling into semi-routines, I am well aware that there will always be "off" nights.
This all is stemming from our night last night, and the last couple of nights...
I nurse about every 3-4 hours throughout the day, or more frequently if the babies are needing it. Around 9:15pm (ish) at night we get the babies changed and turn down all the lights in the living room, and I nurse them for about 45-60min. They usually fall asleep nursing, and we hold upright for a bit and burp gently, then lay down asleep. I head to bed then, which is about 10:45pm.
At 1:00am, David (or my mother in law or Natalie if we have help) gives the babies a 2 ounce bottle (this is per the lacation consultant, so that I can get close to 4 hours of consecutive sleep, which is important to maintain my milk supply). Sometimes they will sleep straight through from the 10:30pm lay down to the 1:00am feed, but often one of them will start to wake around then or before then.
Usually they both go right back down after that, especially if they had to be woken up (but just barely, it's a "sleep feed" a lot of the time). But again, sometimes one or both will just be up for a bit.
Then around 3:30-4:00am, one wakes up to eat. Usually Abbey. So David (or our other wonderful helper if we have one!) will come get me and will wake the other baby, change the babies and I come out to the living room and nurse for about an hour. Luke almost always passes out now after/during this feeding. Abbey on the other hand is then wide awake for about an hour. Not fussy, just awake. I'll admit as much as I would love the sleep, I can't really relent these times. It's kind of nice to just have quiet awake time with my sweet little girl, and to see her big beautiful blue eyes...but, I try not to engage her too much with talking to her, as I want her to sleep since it's nighttime =).
It usually takes me at least an hour to get her sleepy and then tired. Throw in one or two sessions of me laying her down too soon or not slowly enough, and she is awake again so I start over. So that means Luke went back to sleep around 5:00am, and Abbey is going back down around 6:00am, or after. Momma's head hits the pillow right after, and then Luke usually wakes back up between 6:45am-7:30am.
This is not so bad. Really it's not. We have pretty good babies. We are so grateful for them.
But this morning after David and I were comparing notes about our shifts, I learned that Luke had woken back up about 15 minutes after I went to bed, and Abbey was up after the 1:00am feeding too.
They are just up at random intervals sometimes an hour or more at different times during the night.
And I started to get a little nervous...you see right now it's not a problem because I have nothing to do all day but meet the babies needs. If I am drowsy all day from 4 hours of sleep (or less) and I don't get a shower or brush my teeth, no big deal. But in approximately 5 weeks I have to go back to work. Granted it's only part time, but still...I will have things I need to accomplish during the day. Like showering. I mean, my work is understanding and all, but a girl's gotta at least brush her teeth before interacting with physicians and patients all day.
Or at least she should.
When I left for maternity leave, my supervisor pretty much told me I had the freedom to choose how I wanted to schedule the 20 hours a week I will be working. I was hoping to do 2 full days and 1 half day, that way I would still have 4 full days at home with the babies. But now that they are here, I am thinking it might be easier on them if I just worked 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. It would interrupt their days less if I was only gone for the afternoon, as opposed to a FULL day 2 times a week. Plus it would mean a lot less pumping. So I am hopeful my job is on board with this too....
Anyways, I am just polling all you parents again and wondering when about your kid's started showing you signs of sleep patterns. I am hoping our babies will have some sort of a routine for bedtime and nighttime by 12 weeks, when I go back to work.
Again, I know there will always be off nights, even when we have a "routine".
And also again, if your kids are 12 years old and still up crazy hours of the night for hours on end, please refrain from commenting on this post =). Just leave me a comment -even if it's a lie- that says "oh it just happens around 10 weeks..." or something. =) Bless you.
And if you made it through this entire rambling post, you are a real trooper, and here is a picture of our monkey boy to reward your perseverance...
Couldn't you just eat him up????
For those of you that have 2 and 3 year olds that still have absolutely no sleeping pattern, or even a glimpse of it, please refrain from telling me so. Thank you kindly.
I know my sweet babies are only 7 weeks old, and please hear me when I say I have NO expectations of them sleeping through the night, or anything close, for weeks or months to come. I get it, they are newborns, and that is their job. No problem. They are totally worth it.
My fear is that we will never fall into any sort of routine for sleep patterns.
I swear I remember friends of mine saying their babies just kind of fell into one, where they were "down for the night" - with a few wake ups in the middle perhaps- by 7pm or something, or always up at 5:30am, etc. That they had patterns.
Even with those babies falling into semi-routines, I am well aware that there will always be "off" nights.
This all is stemming from our night last night, and the last couple of nights...
I nurse about every 3-4 hours throughout the day, or more frequently if the babies are needing it. Around 9:15pm (ish) at night we get the babies changed and turn down all the lights in the living room, and I nurse them for about 45-60min. They usually fall asleep nursing, and we hold upright for a bit and burp gently, then lay down asleep. I head to bed then, which is about 10:45pm.
At 1:00am, David (or my mother in law or Natalie if we have help) gives the babies a 2 ounce bottle (this is per the lacation consultant, so that I can get close to 4 hours of consecutive sleep, which is important to maintain my milk supply). Sometimes they will sleep straight through from the 10:30pm lay down to the 1:00am feed, but often one of them will start to wake around then or before then.
Usually they both go right back down after that, especially if they had to be woken up (but just barely, it's a "sleep feed" a lot of the time). But again, sometimes one or both will just be up for a bit.
Then around 3:30-4:00am, one wakes up to eat. Usually Abbey. So David (or our other wonderful helper if we have one!) will come get me and will wake the other baby, change the babies and I come out to the living room and nurse for about an hour. Luke almost always passes out now after/during this feeding. Abbey on the other hand is then wide awake for about an hour. Not fussy, just awake. I'll admit as much as I would love the sleep, I can't really relent these times. It's kind of nice to just have quiet awake time with my sweet little girl, and to see her big beautiful blue eyes...but, I try not to engage her too much with talking to her, as I want her to sleep since it's nighttime =).
It usually takes me at least an hour to get her sleepy and then tired. Throw in one or two sessions of me laying her down too soon or not slowly enough, and she is awake again so I start over. So that means Luke went back to sleep around 5:00am, and Abbey is going back down around 6:00am, or after. Momma's head hits the pillow right after, and then Luke usually wakes back up between 6:45am-7:30am.
This is not so bad. Really it's not. We have pretty good babies. We are so grateful for them.
But this morning after David and I were comparing notes about our shifts, I learned that Luke had woken back up about 15 minutes after I went to bed, and Abbey was up after the 1:00am feeding too.
They are just up at random intervals sometimes an hour or more at different times during the night.
And I started to get a little nervous...you see right now it's not a problem because I have nothing to do all day but meet the babies needs. If I am drowsy all day from 4 hours of sleep (or less) and I don't get a shower or brush my teeth, no big deal. But in approximately 5 weeks I have to go back to work. Granted it's only part time, but still...I will have things I need to accomplish during the day. Like showering. I mean, my work is understanding and all, but a girl's gotta at least brush her teeth before interacting with physicians and patients all day.
Or at least she should.
When I left for maternity leave, my supervisor pretty much told me I had the freedom to choose how I wanted to schedule the 20 hours a week I will be working. I was hoping to do 2 full days and 1 half day, that way I would still have 4 full days at home with the babies. But now that they are here, I am thinking it might be easier on them if I just worked 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. It would interrupt their days less if I was only gone for the afternoon, as opposed to a FULL day 2 times a week. Plus it would mean a lot less pumping. So I am hopeful my job is on board with this too....
Anyways, I am just polling all you parents again and wondering when about your kid's started showing you signs of sleep patterns. I am hoping our babies will have some sort of a routine for bedtime and nighttime by 12 weeks, when I go back to work.
Again, I know there will always be off nights, even when we have a "routine".
And also again, if your kids are 12 years old and still up crazy hours of the night for hours on end, please refrain from commenting on this post =). Just leave me a comment -even if it's a lie- that says "oh it just happens around 10 weeks..." or something. =) Bless you.
And if you made it through this entire rambling post, you are a real trooper, and here is a picture of our monkey boy to reward your perseverance...
Couldn't you just eat him up????
19 comments:
I have never had twins and I would imagine it is some what tricky if they get off schedule from each other? I don't really know. I had a similar problem to you where my daughter didn't really have a schedule for awhile at first. I know I went back to work (teaching, so full time) when she was almost 4 months old and by then I was NOT majorly worried about it. We had our bad nights/weeks (especially when she was growing!) but overall I didn't hold my breath that she would sleep a lot at night and I knew roughly what to expect (she was a good little sleeper and was sleeping through the night quite often by then).
One thing we always tried to do was lay her right back down after nursing. We had our hits and misses with that but overall she would often lay there quietly herself and fall asleep eventually without us coming back in. That has been really helpful and has worked it's way up to now when (at 2) we kiss her and say goodnight and lay her down and walk out - and don't hear a peep. Has been that way for a very long time and is lovely.
Best of luck! Hang in there, and I am not lying when I say it WILL get better. :)
Well - both of mine figured out the day/night thing somewhere around four weeks, though Silas didn't actually sleep through the night until he was almost 11 months old. I don't know if that's encouraging or discouraging.
As I've said before, life changed for us when we started our day at the same time every single day, regardless of what had happened during the night. It was like a reset button for my babies, and though every day has its nuance, they both woke up only long enough to eat after we did that.
But I think any cue that you choose - a lovey blanket, a sound machine, whatever - may help. Even if you aren't ready to put Abbey down awake at night (which has never worked for me with newborns, but I know it has worked for other families), it may help to just lay on the couch with her (or the bed, or wherever you are comfortable), and avoid eye contact when you're finished feeding, to communicate that it's bedtime. Lovey blankets have also been very effective for both of my kids in communicating that it's time to go to sleep.
I don't know if that helps or not. Probably not - but that's all I've got.
Good luck. One thing infants teach you is how crucial sleep really is - life goes sour fast when you aren't getting any sleep. =)
Poor babies -- and I mean you and David, Kendra. It really IS hard to be sleep deprived and still have to get things done. I'm not a parent, but I do know that it gets better. Have faith. (P.S. This is one of the reasons I like cats; they sleep so much!)
Love, Aunt Carol
Oh, girl… I know they’ll get it down and hopefully soon!!! I am speaking from no experience whatsoever, but just wanted to encourage you. Love you, friend, and miss you bunches!!! :)
"oh it just happens around 10 weeks..." or something.
I kid, I kid.
That picture of Luke is Hi-larious, by the way.
Little A definitely made strides towards a more normal sleep pattern between 3 and 4 months old- longer stretches, more predictable, etc. Sassy was a little more all over the place for a while, but that's her style!
Hoping you guys get some good rest and a sense of routine soon!
hey! I just came across your blog, and I just wanted to say that I have twin boys that are 13 months. And I went through the same thing. I did the same thing you are doing now. We started a "routine" at about 6 weeks, and eventually everything does kinda fall into place. It does take some time! Im not gonna lie, my boys were 8 months before they started sleeping through the night! (and night i mean like 8pm till 7am) But I will give you "some" hope!:) at about 10 weeks, it just kinda happened, they started skipping the 1am feeding. So that ment that after they went down for the night at about 10pm, they would sleep till about 3am, after that feeding, yes they would still be bright eyed, but I would lay them back in bed, and let them just lay their, and they just "talk" (Sometimes they did cry, and I was never the parent to just to let them cry it out, so I would pick them up and snuggle with them.)This lasted really about about 2 weeks, and then after thier 3am feeding they were going right back to sleep till about 6:30, then i would feed them again, and lay them in thier swing or what not, and our day would begin. I know this is a long comment, but I guess what i really wanted to say is YES it gets better, and you are on the right track!!! Hang in their!!! Email me if you have any more questions! melissa_monroe@hotmail.com
I've never commented before but what a wondeful family you have.You are doing such a great job. Here is my opinion. I have three kids, 11, 3 and 10 months. First let me say every baby is different I had NO schedule with the first two and the third well you could set a clock by him. I would try putting the babies to bed earlier. An overtired baby will not sleep well. (Newborns sleep like 20 hours out of every 24) My 3 and 10 month old sleep from 7pm to 7am. Most baby's by six months are on some kind of a schedule. It also helps to do the same thing everynight before bed. Bath, reading, nursing bed or something like that. For nap maybe just nursing in there room and lay them in there bed. I never turn the lights on in my baby's room. We go in the dark room to nurse and he knows its bedtime. Even dressing him after bath we keep the lights off. Sorry for the rambling, I know how hard it is at first with NO SLEEP.
Hi! I found your blog through my sister-in-law, Anna Steiner's blog. I have a 3 month old who really has been a good sleeper, but there was nothing more I hated than always hearing "just you wait, once you think you're in a routine he'll change." We've changed schedules a few times, but for the most part, the way he behaves has been the same. I tried putting him to bed earlier at first, but found that he just didn't like to go to bed before 11 pm. He'd nap in our living room before that, but not be ok with being put to bed. Around 8 weeks old, we started trying a routine of going to bed by 8:30, and after 2 weeks of only succeeding 3 or 4 times a week, he settled into it, and doesn't wake up again until 5, when I feed him and put him back down for 3 more hours. Now I'm in trouble if I break the routine (last night he was so alert at that time that I had fun playing with him until 9, and of course, he didn't sleep well all night). I've also found that as sweet as it is to rock or cuddle him to sleep, he doesn't sleep as well when I do that. He needs to be put to bed when he's slightly alert. He'll lay in bed for about 15 minutes before nodding off. If he's asleep when I put him down, he'll wake up 20 minutes later and scream until I get him. It's just one of his quirks. As much as I want to set our routine, I've found I need to set it around his needs. But 8 weeks was when life started to really turn around for us, and 10 was when life started to feel normal. Also, as a part time working mom, I work 3 hours a day and have found that it's best for my baby when we don't have a full day away from home. I'm also a more patient mommy the days I work :)
And just to make this comment even longer, I was thinking about you on Mother's Day!
So I can't really comment on "when" it will happen since Elise was so premature that it's hard to say, but she started sleeping through the night around the middle of August, which would have made her adjusted age around 2.5 months.
In some ways, it does "just happen" because one day it just seems to click. That said, I think all the things you do in the weeks leading up to that day are what make that day happen before the babies are 4. And it's sooooo good to be oriented toward this goal now rather than waiting because (from my point of view in seeing what other friends have done whose kids still don't sleep through the night at older ages) if you wait until they're 6 months old, it's not going to "just happen" in the same way and will be much more of a struggle.
All that said, a relative whose daughters both slept through the night at 8 or so weeks encouraged me to feed at least every 3 hours during the day (which I realize is super hard with twins but seems like it would be worth it if they start sleeping through the night) and not to ever let Elise go more than 3 hours during the day. That way, she never got super hungry and got into the day time routine that she would be fed consistently. This included waking her up if she was taking a nap.
Then at night, I let Elise sleep as long as she would (aka didn't ever wake her up to feed). I'm not sure if there's a theory with twins as far as waking one up in the night if the other one wakes up, but if not, you might try just letting the sleepy one sleep. I realize that might mean you don't get any sleep at night for a while, but I would think that continuing to wake them up in the night can delay the process of them sleeping through the night, especially if one turns out to be more of a sleeper than the other.
The other thing we did was to let Elise cry for a while when she woke up at night. Although this was especially hard at first when I wasn't sure what cry was what, eventually I figured out whether she really needed me or had just woken up and needed to cry for a while to get back to sleep. I hate the term "cry it out" because she wasn't crying anything out. She just woke up and didn't quite know how to fall back asleep without crying for a while.
Because we were bottle-feeding, I knew she was getting enough to eat during the day to not "starve" at night if I didn't feed her every time she woke up and cried. I'm not sure if you could tell in the same way with breastfeeding (or are even comfortable with starting to let them cry more at night...maybe once they are 8 weeks old??), but you could always schedule a weight check at the pediatrician's office, start letting them cry/sleep but not feed as often at night and then go back in for a weight check a week later to make sure they haven't lost weight.
This is quite long and probably rambling, but maybe something in it will help! Feel free to email me if anything I've mentioned doesn't make sense or if you have any questions about what we did. It might sound a bit strict, but it actually wasn't at all and seemed to help for us.
Hi Kendra! My twins are 4 months old, so the memories of extreme sleep deprivation are still painfully fresh. My heart goes out to you! My babies were restless all night long at the beginning and I never slept for more than 2-3 hours at a time. But at exactly 12 weeks, something miraculous happened! Without any intervention on our part, they just started sleeping longer and longer stretches. Now they go to bed around 7pm (although Sophia still has colic that keeps her up a little later many evenings) and wake up once around 2-3am and then go back to bed until around 7am. My hubby and I can finally sleep in the same bed again (we spent the first 12 weeks alternating turns on the couch in the babies' room). So please be encouraged! They will figure it out soon! You are doing a great job, mama! :)
i didn't read all your comments, so i'm sorry if i'm repeating anything. here are my 2 cents...coming from someone who only has ONE baby, so ignore me if you want. ha! hank (8 months now) was sleeping through the night (9ish-6ish) at 10 1/2 weeks. i think something that really helped him learn how to sleep was that i would often lay him in his bed awake...day and night. i NEVER let him cry (still don't) but after he ate at night i would put him right back in bed, whether he was already asleep or still awake, and as long as he wasn't crying i just left him. he was swaddled and sometimes had a pacifier. he would 9 times out of 10 just go back to sleep...sometimes after a little while of laying there. again, i do not have twins, but maybe if they are sharing a room and you are worried they will wake each other then you could put one in a pack n play in a guest room for a little while?? also, we were on formula by 7 weeks and hank was close to 12 pounds i think, but i stopped feeding him in the middle of the night around that time. this was key to him sleeping through the night. if he woke up around 3:00am and i knew he had had all of the ounces he needed and didn't need to eat then i would just replace the pacifier or rock him to coax him back to sleep. again, i didn't let him cry. it was a hard 2 weeks or so but all of a sudden he quit waking up at that time and slept through the night. their little bodies just get used to waking up, even when they aren't hungry, so you have to train them to sleep through it. good luck!
Remembered one more thing about what we did. My apologies in advance that this is another long one. For the day time routine (which set the stage for sleeping more at night), we always did the same order...
1) Wake up (whether naturally or by me waking her up if we were nearing the 3-hours-since-last-feeding mark).
2) Diaper change.
3) Feeding.
4) Play time.
5) Nap (laying her down in bed as soon as she started showing signs of being sleepy).
The nice thing about this order is that then she didn't have to eat in order to fall asleep. I guess that's just a preference thing, but it did help her to learn to go to sleep on her own once we did things in that order. And then she wasn't falling sleep during a feeding and getting woken up by the transition to bed. And that's actually the order they did things in the NICU. (Obviously, the "play time" was shorter then or non-existent when it was just the nurses without us there to "play" with her, but the concept was the same.)
In the end, go with whatever things people suggest that sound best for you.
And if you do decide to let them cry for a while in bed to fall asleep, do not feel guilty. Although it's not for everyone, it also isn't going to traumatize them or make them into horrible babies/children. We get compliments on how happy/good/healthy/behaved Elise is all the time and her good sleeping is a big part of her being such a good girl. (I know there's a connection between her sleep and her behavior because her entire demeanor changed when we tried putting her in the toddler bed and she wasn't sleeping as well. And now that she's in her Pack'N'Play-our solution until she's ready for the toddler bed since we only have one crib-she's back to her old, happy self.)
I do recommend finding a friend (online or in real life) who is doing something similar to whatever you decide to do so that you can call them when you are needing a little pick me up and some encouragement. No matter what "method" you use, it's hard not to feel at times like you aren't sure if you're doing what's best and having someone to talk to who chose the same route as you is always helpful!
Kendra. First of all, I would be please to be one of the overnight helpers!
Secondly, each of you girls were the same in that you went from terrible sleep patterns to sleeping LONG stretches (or all night) almost overnight. You didn't wean off one feeding and then another. You skipped two at once. There is a light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not a train. Hopefully you won't have to keep waking them for a feeding so they don't get into that rhythm.
I totally "get" what you were saying about your time alone with Abbey. I remember when you all did start sleeping through the night I missed those quite times (once I got caught up a bit on sleep).
Regarding work: Can someone bring them to your office to feed during the day? I'm thinking going out a couple of days a week sounds easier than getting dressed and going out every day.
I am SO proud of you!
I have been there and done that but only with one baby! You amaze me.
Love, mom
Thank God for the power of prayer. I can do that. I don't think I can add to all the great comments above. But, I can pray.
LOVE,
GRAND DAD
Hi Kendra!
Even though little Miss Jeven is almost 12, I very clearly remember her starting to sleep through the night at 9 weeks. We celebrated, that's for sure!
It was pure heaven :)
I know you are cherishing every single second with your beautiful babies, but I want to tell you the sleep issues/patterns GET BETTER!!
When Jeven was a baby she would only drink 3-4 oz. at a time. And because of that, when she was an infant, she would finish a bottle, go back to sleep, then wake up 45 min. to an hour and a half later, because of course she was hungry again. I thought it was drive me nuts-- having to keep getting up and never getting any sleep. But as I said, at 9 weeks, POOF she slept through the night and has ever since.
I hope your precious little babies get to sleeping better real soon.
Thinking of you sweet friend.
Oh my! You are one amazing woman! This sounds like one busy schedule. I wish I had some great advice for you ...but I don't. Just hang in there....Christ is so faithful to equip us to make it through this lifes challenges.
Hi Kendra,
Don't worry, you are doing fine, and I think it will get better soon. Even though I just had the one baby, I remember trying to get in a pattern with her and it not working for a few weeks at a time. Then I remembered when I was pregnant. She was active when I was trying to sleep sometimes or vice versa I'm sure, but I just kept sending her positive vibes and keeping my stress to a minimum. I think that no matter how much sleep a baby gets, if they have stressed out parents it is not good. So just take comfort in knowing that you are doing well and the best thing you can do is to relax, just like when you were pregnant. Just because the babies are born doesn't mean that they can't pick up on your stress. I like reading to Indira. We have a black and white book that she liked at first, and a few other books that I can read to her when I need to relax. Usually this will put her to sleep or calm both of us down.
First of all, you are doing a GREAT job! Take heart, even though you're exhausted, you're a wonderful mom! Secondly, I'll share what worked for us at about 7-8 weeks with our twins. We didn't have any help after the first 4 weeks so even though I didn't work I was still pretty desperate to get them on a schedule. At exactly 8 weeks, we took them to California and Washington to visit our families for 2 1/2 weeks. Obviously, the schedule was pretty much thrown out the window during this trip because of the time zones, unfamiliar places, and lots of stimulation during the daytime. They continued to eat every 2-3 hours round the clock and would often wake up at different intervals too.
However, when we got home from our trip they were 10 1/2 weeks old. At this point, they were only getting one bottle of formula per day and I gave it to them at the midnight feeding, hoping that it would prevent them from waking from hunger before 3 or 4 am. A few days later, at almost exactly 11 weeks, they both miraculously dropped the 3 am feeding and started sleeping until 5 or even 6 am if I was lucky. Another couple weeks later (maybe around 11 1/2 or 12 weeks if I remember correctly) they were consistently sleeping for 6-7 hours straight, from about midnight to 6 or 7 am.
Around 16 weeks, we dropped the midnight feeding as well and they began building up to sleeping 10-11 hours a night. By the time they were 4 1/2 months old, they were consistently sleeping at least 10 hours a night. Because I am not a morning person, we chose to put them to bed for the night at 9 pm, which is a little later than most of the baby-sleep books suggest but it worked great for us. They would both sleep from 9 pm to 7 or 8 am.
If they ever woke up crying, we would simply go in, put their pacifier back in, rub their back for a minute or so and then leave. By around 4-5 months, we did let them cry it out for 5-10 minutes and this seemed to work great because they learned how to put themselves to sleep. They rarely cried though unless their pacifier fell out, and we always went in right away to replace it.
Also, we always changed diapers first, then fed, re-swaddled (we swaddled them until they were 9 months and started breaking out) and laid them down with a pacifier in. That usually did the trick and they would fall back asleep pretty easily, especially if they had been falling asleep while nursing.
As for having them wake up at different times, it sounds like you're doing as good of a job as you can keeping them on the same schedule so I'm not sure if there's much you can do about that unfortunately. We dealt with this a little and never had much success until they were ready to start sleeping longer stretches anyways. But within a few weeks, your babies will hopefully start sleeping longer and maybe drop the 3 am feeding. You're right, it will just happen one day, but it will happen! And hopefully soon!
I stumbled across your blog through someone elses blog and just had to comment on this post! I have a four month old and at 7 weeks thought "my gosh we are never going to have a routine!" eventually it just kind of came together! I wanted to say it sounds like you are doing a great job with your schedule right now, I know you dont see it, but you have much more of one than I did! Precious babies by the way!
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